The Israel-Lebanon Conflict in so many words - commentaires

The Israel-Lebanon Conflict in so many words

Dear WHOEVER (next time please use a nickname at least),

The point was clearly stressed - to give equal treatment to all opinions aka freedom of speech. There was no reference to terrorism whatsoever in Azrael's comment or any calling for such measures or express of support. And I published it with the same legitimacy as I did yours, which is BTW more offensive, with your assumptions and comment about Allah.

I know I was walking on thin ice here with allowing these comments and in case this commenting gets truly offensive, this was the last post I will approve.

The Israel-Lebanon Conflict in so many words

@Peter : I don't see the point to publish a comment from somebody who supports terrorism

@Azrael : Israël has the right to defends itself. Palestinians' fate has been caused by their neighboring arab states that manipulated them in order to fight Israël and to terrorist organisations such as Hamas and Hezbollah. As long as those organisations have support the Palestinian people will not have the support they should deserve from the civilized world. BTW there is no such thing as Allah. If you believe in a god, it's your right but please do not bother the rest of the world with this.

The Israel-Lebanon Conflict in so many words

Dear Azrael,

there's no need to have such an offensive tone. I could've deleted your message (am the moderater of this forum) but I like to have open discussions, and for the sake of freeedom of speech prefer to publish even comments that some might consider inappopriate - and yours fits into this category.

I am very much aware of the historic injustice made to the Palestinian people. We should also remind ourselves that plenty historical injustices were made to the Jews in the past. But that's a completely different topic than the one tackled in the present article.

But I will briefly make a few comments of my own on the topic you mention : having been in Palestine (West Bank and Gaza), Israel as well as the Golan Heights in 1999 it's difficult to stay objective. But even though my heart and logic and historical injustice goes out to my Palestinian friends I have to acknowlidge the need for a democratic and peaceful Israeli state next to democratic and peaceful Palestinian state. Let's rather focus on how to achieve this and move away from hatred and eternal debates about the past. It's all written down in UN resolutions and international law - black on white.

In your comment you do make a valid point about the danger and problematics of the selling of weapons (not just WMD). Something we should talk about and tackle on the global level.

So, maybe you can give also some concrete proposals on how to tackle these issues and not just fall into the trap of criticizing the 'West'.

The Israel-Lebanon Conflict in so many words

You've blighted palestine with your garbage. The holocaust is europe's crime, not just nazi germany, but all of continental europe. And who must atone for this crime ? who is forced to pay for this crime ? The palestinians. What other nation is delivered from colonialism only to be subjected to conquest and occupation. Their dispossesion is institutionalized by the current political world system.

Soon the u.s. hegemony will no longer be able to hold together this fractured world system. When the barriers of entry to weapons of mass destruction become so low that non-state actors can start killing entire cities, that is when europe will be made to atone for it's sins. You've destroyed so much, plundered so much, enslaved so many, soon that will all come back to you. This action-reaction karma is a fundamental principle of physics just as valid as nuclear fission. May allah have mercy on your souls when your cities burn as you allowed lebanon to burn under the onslaught of american and european weapons.

The Israel-Lebanon Conflict in so many words

I like that hat, it's pretty cool.

On the subject of hats, I'd like to point out that

1. It's a symbol of finland

2. I bought it to impress the ladies in the street of stockholm

3. my tastes weren't full on, considering that I'd just been cycling for the ten days before, and I was a little worn out

About your little diatribe against pacifism, I'd like to hear your 'blunt solutions'. By putting them up on this forum, you're being a true federalist, in the vein of Lord Lothian, a great federalist of the 'thirtees', whose bleak visage probably adorns quite a few oak panelled staterooms.

In the meantime let us pacifists speak out in emotional terms against events that cause suffering.

The Israel-Lebanon Conflict in so many words

A great conclusion.

I'm sure this never came up to the mind of people over there.

Let's all be friends, and the world will be a better place

I am against war and for peace.

I am for love and against hatred.

"See, Nature, rejoicing, has shown us the way

With innocent revels to welcome the day.

The tuneful grove and talking rill,

The laughing vale, the replying hill,

With charming harmony unite

This happy season to invite." What a patronising European view !

How nice. How pointless.

Just reflect on what Lord Lothian, one of the greatest federalists of the thirtees, had to say : « Pacifism is not enough » So be federalist, be blunt, bring solutions, but stop this mellow-hearted naffing rubbish.

and take that stupid hat off your head.