2011-12-23T14:07:11Z https://www.thenewfederalist.eu/After-the-European-Council-JEF-Europe-calls-for-a-shift-from-the,04709#comment12066 2011-12-23T14:07:11Z

<p>@Charles : JEF is a political organisation, it is therefore definding its views. A pertt of the EU is already working according to federal principles. The present crisis demonstrates the need to move further forward on that road. When you mention « The French » I guess you think of its political elité. Most citizens are aware that we need a European political Union but also that such a Union cannot exist if it is not democratic. Only federalism allows to do both.</p> <p>The Britsih government is trying to slow down that progress because of an ideologicalk romantic and passeist stance. Other governements arer usually more realists, hence will make the moves that are needed fot the Union, therefore will g*have to make progress towards federalism.</p>

2011-12-23T09:50:20Z https://www.thenewfederalist.eu/After-the-European-Council-JEF-Europe-calls-for-a-shift-from-the,04709#comment12064 2011-12-23T09:50:20Z

<p>JEF can deplore British actions all it likes, but what difference will that make ? The French, who believe the EU is their creation and somehow it belongs to them, have no desire for a Federal Europe. The Germans quite rightly no longer feel they have to be the « Good Guys » and don't want a Federal Europe. Probably only Belgium, mostly dysfunctionally governed for the past few years and their Verhofstadt feel that Federalism is a solution, plus a few delusional individuals here and there.</p>